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6954	7794	And I believe we are live.
8214	9475	Hi, Daniel, how are you doing?
10616	11436	I'm doing great.
12377	15599	It's cold outside, but it's nice in here, yeah.
17210	19952	I can assure you it's very cold in my own place as well.
20713	27678	We do EmacsConf always in December and that's always when it's particularly cold where I live and I assume where you live as well.
28219	31802	So, don't worry, we'll try to keep you warm with interesting questions.
32202	38847	But first, thank you for taking the time out of your busy high school life to make a presentation about Emacs.
38867	43031	Do you have any thoughts about the process of recording something for a conference?
43131	45793	Because I assume it's one of the first ones you're ever doing.
53922	57966	I think it was not as difficult as I thought it would be.
59728	65595	I just recorded in my basement and prepared some notes beforehand.
66476	72282	I think it was definitely helpful to have Emacs as a tool for that, because I made my presentation with Beamer.
73864	74044	Right.
76721	83285	I mean, it's amazing to see so many of the tools because, you know, you've shown Emacs, but you've shown Beamer.
83665	90088	You've shown tools that are about twice as old as you are yourself, which is amazing when you think about it.
90569	96312	But I think many people in the audience can actually relate to your discovery of those tools because we
96952	117949	were pretty much, I mean a lot of us were your age when we started playing with those tools so it's like there's a little bit of nostalgia that we feel looking at your presentation because we are, we can see the excitement behind everything you've touched and that's great for us because it brings us back maybe 10 or 20 years in the past and for others perhaps 30 or 40 years so that's kind of amazing.
121864	123725	How about we start taking some questions?
123745	132050	So, just for timekeeping, we have until 20 of the current hours, which is 8 minutes and 30 seconds to cover as many questions as possible.
132510	135131	Now, if we might take the first one.
135692	138333	So, Corbyn, can you scroll down to the questions?
138613	138793	Yes.
139814	143096	I'll be reading you the questions just to make it a little easier for you, Daniel, to answer them.
144356	146617	I use Orgrim for notes and find it very useful.
146938	147638	Have you considered it?
149813	152734	Uh, yeah, that's actually where I started out for taking notes.
153314	161497	Um, that, that I moved to Ditto because I didn't use all of its features, um, for, or grow my men.
164457	167998	Uh, I also didn't, didn't really like the dependency on an external database.
168419	176321	Uh, it just like took a while for, um, stuff to index if I moved it between like, uh, using sync thing.
178066	179986	laptop and my desktop.
180827	181047	Yeah.
183047	190509	Yeah, it's definitely something, I mean, I co-maintain Orgrim, so I'm fully aware of this problem with it.
190869	194509	And yeah, SyncThink is not great to sync a database, a SQLite database that we use.
195350	199090	And, I mean, whichever solution you use, whatever works for you is good.
199450	207132	Orgrim was kind of thought in terms of scalability for people who had, you know, thousands of notes with thousands of links inside of them.
207612	215118	so perhaps it's not adapted to your note-taking style right now, but perhaps it's something to keep in mind, you know, it's many tools and you use them when you need to.
216960	220643	Colin, if we can switch the questions, I'm switching to the second one.
221163	224205	Do you use the getting things done methodology as part of your org workflow?
226287	228289	So there's an interesting thing about that.
228489	234774	I started with org first and then I heard about getting things done, so I didn't exactly
236394	239375	design my workflow with that in mind, but I sort of.
242336	250019	Like reinvented it, I would say, not really, but I do a lot of the similar things, but I don't have the different to do states like.
253360	260363	I don't know an example because I didn't really look into it that much, but it would be like next isn't the next thing you're going to do.
262703	263904	But I don't think I
272403	277987	where I just write what I need to do and then schedule it and then look at my agenda for the next thing.
279708	293778	Yeah, I mean, part of the beauty of using Emacs, Org Mode or using a methodology like Getting Things Done is that I think you need to find room in the method or the tool for you to organically do what you want.
294078	298141	And it's okay to not do everything in a Getting Things Done methodology.
298621	305584	Like, I know a lot of people take issue with the Tickler file, where you're supposed to put stuff to review in the future.
306004	314908	Like, for instance, if you don't want to work on this particular topic right now in your life, you decide, oh, I'd like to revisit this topic maybe in six months.
315228	319770	And then you have this Tickler file, which has entries and folders for each month of the year.
320451	321111	And when
321551	328497	six months comes and you find yourself at the beginning of the next month, you open the file and you see, oh there's the task I left off for later.
328817	336244	A lot of people don't like to do it this way, some people really like it, but part of the beauty of having tools which are very modular
336764	342131	like Emacs and Org Mode allows you to have, well, you just adjust the method for something that works.
342532	355068	And there's something to be garnered as well for applying these lessons to how you organize your life, not merely in front of a computer, but also how you manage your tasks elsewhere at school, iSchool or elsewhere.
358610	360531	All right, moving to the next question.
361011	365594	OrgSC and OrgDrill are Emacs org-mode-centric flashcard solutions.
366014	366855	Have you looked into them?
368916	383204	I think I looked into OrgDrill, but I wanted to use OrgKey because of... I wanted to use it on my phone, but then I realized I had to pay for the app, and then I didn't want to use it on my phone anymore.
386138	392804	but it's just something that I used before without work mode for a little bit.
392864	402412	And then I liked it, but yeah, it works pretty well with work mode.
402452	412180	So I didn't find a reason to switch to one of those because like I might be not at a computer one day and have to learn something.
413311	416414	Yeah, that's something that you call premature optimization.
416494	420957	And if you continue as a software engineer at university, you'll get to hear plenty of this.
421277	429544	But yes, Anki is also a tool that I've used a whole lot in my learning journeys, be it about languages, be it about literature, be it about
432501	441368	whatever really, and it's a very good tool and I recommend people to look into it, especially since they've released a new algorithm to manage learning a little differently than the old one.
441508	447252	If you're familiar with SuperMemo, I really invite you to look into the advancement in Enki in recent years.
448733	454578	Moving to another question, what do other students think about your approach and what are they doing instead, if anything?
454898	456279	And your teachers, what do they think?
458939	483131	So for other students they usually are just confused about what's going on when I show my computer because they know that I use Linux but they don't know what it is so they're just assuming everything on my computer is I'm either hacking or like doing some Linux thing and I don't really bother to explain it to them so that's kind
491601	493562	But for I love it.
494422	496383	See my see my prior videos.
496483	497503	That's that's wonderful.
497623	497963	Pardon me.
498123	499564	Pardon me for breaking in, Daniel.
499604	502985	But I just since I have, I want to say wonderful presentation.
503105	508227	I love your spirit, your tone and great thought there.
509667	511188	For my teachers, I think.
520300	523843	because if I write an essay or something, I usually paste it in Google Docs.
523923	527585	But recently, I got more confident, which is export to LaTeX.
529326	531948	And I did that for my physics labs.
533489	536931	And my teacher was pretty satisfied with the results for the math formatting.
538192	546538	So I think they don't really have a problem with it, where it's actually more convenient, maybe.
550400	565928	That's really great to hear and if you continue at university, which I'm almost sure that you will, your professors, you'll be pretty much using the same tools as they are, so you'll find yourself in a like-minded crowd of people once you get to university.
566828	571232	We are a little short on time because we need to move to the next talk in about one minute.
572753	582161	There are still some questions and Daniel, I would invite you to stay and maybe answer them in a room so that we can gather as many of your answers as possible.
582681	586885	But before we leave, I just want to give you the opportunity, if you have any last words, to share them with the crowd.
590287	594411	Well, for the students who may be watching this, I hope that you give Emacs a try.
595786	600250	And good luck if you decide to use something else because it's probably won't be as great.
603951	608233	It's very good to be so young and to already be convinced that Emacs is the best thing.
608293	614216	For some of us, it took us many decades to reach this conclusion, and I'm so happy to see young people.
614316	627822	I used to be a teacher, by the way, so I used to teach people your age, but I'm so happy to see people your age interested in Emacs because it makes me hopeful that in the future we'll have people carrying the flame and standing on the shoulders of
628502	628962	current people.
629282	630242	So thank you so much, Daniel.
630803	631683	We'll be seeing you soon.
631803	633283	We wish you good luck with your studies.
633843	637264	And for EmacsConf, we'll be moving to the next talk in five seconds.
637684	638044	See you soon.
638844	644225	And I want to reassure you, we'll post all the Q&A info when we do post this video.
645946	646126	Yes.
646566	651487	So Daniel, as I said, if you want to stick around a little more with Corwin to answer the questions, that's all fine.
651847	653848	I'll be moving to the next room to get ready for the next talks.
654168	654888	So thank you, Daniel.
655068	655668	And I'll see you later.
661003	662084	All right, the cops are gone.
662304	663745	Wait, no, I'm just kidding.
665287	671632	No, but if you'd like to walk through a few more of these questions, I'd be happy to record that.
671692	673074	You're not obligated to do that.
673134	674455	You could also, the pad's there.
674515	677117	You could just type out your answers or whatever you prefer to do.
677137	681001	I guess I can answer them still.
681842	682002	Cool.
684574	689276	So we're here, what was your biggest source of frustration, friction, confusion when getting started?
692397	693798	I honestly don't really remember.
693818	702201	It somehow just clicked one day and I figured it out.
705322	707963	All right, it takes us pretty naturally to the next one.
708124	709944	How did you come across Emacs?
709984	710645	What got you into it?
712965	714326	I could ask this question quite
719002	732768	similar to how I stumbled into Linux, where I was... I heard of it before, but I saw screenshots of it or something on Reddit, and I was like, oh, that looks pretty cool, maybe I'll look into that.
734649	742953	And then on YouTube, I would see videos about Doom Emacs, and then the Doomcasts video, I think that's what really got me into it.
757296	758977	Okay, I did my best to capture that.
760078	765021	So what's the situation with respect to the mobile use, if that's applicable?
766082	770725	And Orgly is, sorry, was it not Doomcast?
770805	771926	Is it System Crafter?
771986	773707	Sorry if I botched the note.
776029	782173	Oh yeah, System Crafters was also one of the things I used for getting into Emacs from scratch.
784675	786316	I'm sorry if my dog is barking.
791513	797874	the, I'm not sure how to pronounce his name, but Protositos, I think that's how you say it.
798534	801895	I always say Prot just to get me out of that problem for what it's worth.
802315	804096	I'm not sure that I can say it properly either.
804316	818078	Yeah, his videos were really great for getting started with each, each individual component of something like there's entire videos just about completion and about a tool called Embark.
819039	821459	And like, I would just watch those videos while
824707	826389	Like I would, I would learn a lot from that.
834317	834898	Awesome.
835078	835518	I love it.
836139	841705	Um, what about, uh, the, the mobile, uh, sorry, did I get that question out there already?
843126	843527	Oh, no.
843547	843607	Uh,
859964	866626	But for org files, I couldn't really get it to sync over without using a paid app.
866906	871267	And I didn't really look into it that much because I have a computer with me almost all the time.
876328	877769	Usually I carry around a notebook.
878509	882770	And if I really need to know something or remember it for later, I just write it down.
893407	910840	I've seen people get started with e-ink tablets, and they sync it with SyncThink because it's Android, but I don't use that, so I can't really attest to how good it is.
922334	926998	So has using Emacs led you to an expanded interest in programming and computer science?
927939	930321	Sorry if I could have got that out of the presentation.
931782	935045	I think Emacs is what got me started with the Lisp specifically.
938267	950678	Otherwise, I probably would have not really looked into it that much other than like maybe dabbling in Scheme from the Structures and Interpretations of Computer Programs book.
951462	955245	But I probably wouldn't have seen that if I hadn't discovered a max either so.
1000672	1008819	So maybe we'd jump from there, right, to, you mentioned exporting notes, essays, and so on, handing them on to other people.
1009099	1013823	How does interaction with others work in technical terms?
1015144	1019908	We mostly find workflows centered around like Microsoft products, and that makes sense to me.
1020028	1026013	I have a day job where I have to work with a bunch of Microsoft products, and I know the workflows for that.
1026773	1029736	So how do you manage your kind of EMAX-y
1031502	1035365	you know, workflows, um, you know, in terms of sharing with people.
1035545	1036927	Yeah.
1037307	1043152	So for sharing with like my teachers or something, I would, we use like Google at our school.
1043192	1053060	So for, I'm very fortunate that I don't have to deal with Microsoft other than with a very niche situations in which I can just use LibreOffice and then convert to Doc X or something.
1053539	1054480	I heard that chef.
1054540	1060544	That's, that's how all my vendors, uh, my vendors all roll their eyes when they were, Oh, you're a Microsoft shop.
1061264	1061465	Yep.
1061585	1061825	Heard.
1062886	1065147	Then they're all Google shops to an education.
1065948	1066368	Great point.
1082970	1086154	it for later if I wanted to look at it.
1088456	1092100	But for that, I don't really have too much problems.
1092401	1096365	Hopefully, I will find a way to figure it out when I get into university.
1101591	1101871	Awesome.
1103906	1113393	Okay, well, I know we did it once already, but since this will be the end of the video, let me just open the floor one more time for parting thoughts.
1117795	1119116	I'm not sure that I have any.
1120277	1121718	I mean, you said it pretty well, right?
1122138	1124800	I hope my peers see this.
1124940	1130584	I hope they realize other tools are kind of inferior from a get things done standpoint.
1131724	1132265	Sol, your talk?
1133352	1135413	heard that message in this Q&A.
1135453	1136413	I think you did a great job.
1136714	1139295	You don't have to say more, but just offering you the chance.
1140775	1141176	Thank you.
1142836	1143717	Well, thank you, Daniel.
1143917	1149419	And thanks to everybody watching this video during the conference or after it.
1149839	1154061	And appreciate and look forward to your talks in the future, Daniel.
1155382	1155702	Thank you.